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Begemot's avatar

Being a neocon means never having to say you were wrong or you are sorry.

Aunty Jean's avatar

Unfortunately, it doesn't matter to neocons how many people die as long as the MICIMATT keeps rolling along. Boris Johnson nixed the potential peace deal that could have led to peace on far better terms for Ukraine than they will get now, if talks ever resume.

Christopher Holmes's avatar

So true. Impunity is reserved for the guilty, isn't it!

TomR's avatar

I believe we spend too much time thinking about individual administrations, as if each has some ability to set a different course. A Harris administration would be doing much the same as Trump; it's possible she would have already authorized the transfer of Tomahawks (TLAM) to Ukraine.

As Brian Berletic (New Atlas on Youtube) makes clear - most of the geostrategic plans, written decades ago by organizations such as Rand, Brookings, etc, are what each administration follows. The goal is to maintain global hegemony by the U.S.

Putin gave an interview last weekend that was barely covered in the U.S. In it, he admitted he was in error in thinking that differences with the West were ideological and holdovers from the Cold War. As he now recognizes this is economic and about the survival of Russia as an independent entity. Lavrov made many of the same points this past week.

I believe they have finally accepted that the U.S. has no interest in a multipolar world or the rights of any country; it intends to remain the hegemon. Thus, any treaty with the West over Ukraine will be temporary (part of the strategic sequencing at work), before the next assault on Russia commences.

One other point. I used to think the risk of nuclear weapons use related to Ukraine was remote. I fear that is no longer the case. John Mearsheimer (political scientist at the U. of Chicago) has friends in Russia - he said they are sober, conservative academics - who now believe Russia will need to use nuclear weapons to demonstrate its resolve not to be destroyed.

wrknight's avatar

Never forget that the U.S. was the first nation to deploy nuclear weapons; and I strongly suspect it will be the U.S. that deploys the next round of nuclear weapons. After that, it will be open season.

wrknight's avatar

The U.S. has never once said it would not use nuclear weapons first in any war; and the nuclear option is in every war plan in the Pentagon.

TomR's avatar

I had participated in a military exercise related to that very point. And, as I noted in a recent post, Douglas MacGregor has said the U.S. has about 8 days of conventional missiles; after that it would have to go nuclear.

The Watchman's avatar

Also, Trump has clowns like Lindsey Graham trying to influence his decisions as well.

In a recent RT article Tarik Cyril Amar stated "Much of US policy is as vicious and pernicious as can be. Or, at least, as most of us can imagine. But for Graham it is never bad enough."

https://www.rt.com/news/621621-lindsey-graham-repulsive-american/

Linking your article as usual, Bill @https://nothingnewunderthesun2016.com/

Christopher Holmes's avatar

I "like" everything you write, which means I agree fully, especially today. You probably won't agree with me, but our miserable species fully deserves extinction, the self-annihilation that the "indispensable nation" is on track for ensuring. Of course it is unjust, but in the kingdom of devils well represented by Washington's neocons, who gives a damn about the difference between justice and injustice? Morality? Right and wrong? How will the stock market respond?

Gregory Laxer's avatar

How will Man's world end, with a bang or a whimper? The thing about nuclear war is that despite how probable it may look at times--the famous Doomsday Clock--it is NOT "guaranteed." I view the Climate Catastrophe as a far greater threat to the planet's future, and the thing about that phenomenon is that it IS virtually GUARANTEED to get progressively more deadly with the passage of time--this is dictated by the laws of Physics, Meteorology, etc. We have left the Rubicon far behind, and there is no turning back.

Glen Brown's avatar

At tennis today, during our break in-between sets I told my friends just how provoked the Russians were to invade Ukraine and I added. Oct 7th was highly provoked as was 9/11. Both were disproportionately small responses compared to the death and destruction caused by Israeli to Palestinians since 1948 and the death and destruction caused by America to Islamic nations since WWII.

John R Moffett's avatar

Most people don't agree with me, but I wrote a long time ago that Ukraine was one of NATO's targets in the war, not an ally by any means. Ukraine was part of the USSR for a long time, and many regions in Ukraine have been part of Russia for hundreds of years or longer. Eastern Ukraine is mostly Slavic people, just like the people in Russia. That is one reason why Russia has been going slowly, they know that the towns and cities they are attacking have Russians and Russian-speaking people still living there (mostly hiding in basements for years), who are actually waiting for liberation from the Western Ukrainian Nazis who control the Zelensky government. For NATO, getting Ukraine to attack their Slavic neighbor was a win-win situation. It is why our government seems so uninterested in the number of dead Ukrainians while obsessing on fabricated Russian casualties. I guarantee you that our government has a very accurate account of the dead Ukrainians, and are delighted with the outcome. What NATO has done in Ukraine only makes sense if NATO actually wants to hurt both Ukraine and Russia at the same time. Then, when the war is over, Russia and Ukraine will have the burden of having to rebuild everything that they both destroyed over the last 2 1/2 years. Another win for NATO. Just about everything makes sense once you accept this view.

wrknight's avatar

I will disagree with you on 2 minor points. First, the Ukrainians are also Slavs. Second, I don't believe the U.S. has an accurate account of the dead (or destruction) on either side. Never forget Tommy Franks' famous quote, "We don't do body counts".

Otherwise, you are spot on!

John R Moffett's avatar

The majority of western Russians and eastern Ukrainians are of the same ethnic group, which makes sense since they are living in the same region. Even places like Odessa are majority Russian. And yeah, I know they say they don't do body counts, but they do. The army and government lie a lot. They have many sources of information including Ukrainian army unit counts (they know how many recruits went missing), Russian - Ukrainian swaps of recovered bodies which are all counted, as well as battle assessment data where they now have drone coverage of every battle. They know within probably 5% or better how many Ukrainian soldiers have been killed and wounded and it is very important that this information is not released to the public.

wrknight's avatar

I do believe you when you say the army and government lie a lot.

Glen Brown's avatar

Alaw of physics that applies to humanity: Every action is provoked. No action is unstimulated. Nothing comes from nothing. Stimulus is essential. A response is always stimulated. Recognizing that is different than determining how ethical or proportionate the response stimulated was. Kennedy was angry with the lies the CIA told him that caused the Bay of Pigs and Cuban Missile crises. He was threating going after the intelligence community. That provoked or stimulated the CIA to have him assassinated. Even the most insane irrational actions are stimulated or provoked

Ray Joseph Cormier's avatar

A brief excerpt from my upcoming article, 'BABYLON THE GREAT, THE MOTHER OF HARLOTS AND A-BOM-i-NATIONS OF THE EARTH.'

"If you listened and analyzed the prognostications of the Presidents and Prime Ministers at the G-7 and the NATO Summit last month, all they see before them is WAR, even if the majority of people don't want it. They don't have the courage of President Kennedy, who grasped like no others, how close this World came to WWIII/ARMAGEDDON during the Cuban Missile Crisis of 1962.

Kennedy decided to change US Foreign Policy from confrontation and domination, to a genuine Good Faith Diplomatic way forward to achieve a genuine Peace with the Soviet Russians. To that end, in 1963 said, "Above all, while defending our own vital interests, nuclear powers must avert those confrontations which bring an adversary to a choice of either a humiliating retreat or a nuclear war. To adopt that kind of course in the nuclear age would be evidence only of the bankruptcy of our policy–or of a collective death-wish for the world.”

None of the kings of the Earth who were at the G-7 & NATO have the Profile in Courage of a John Kennedy. He finally got the Spirit of Blessed are the Peace Makers, and called for Genuine Peace.

From the Dr. Strangeloves at the Pentagon and powerful people working behind the scenes the Public never sees, wanting Confrontation and WAR, he knew his life was at risk going against the US Deep State. From 1963 when Kennedy was murdered, to this very Day, US POWER application in this World is still the same confrontation, threat and domination now magnified in Trump.

Now that Germany agreed to buy the Patriot Missiles from the US to give to Ukraine, I think Trump's ambivalence toward NATO was all an act to get the US NATO vassals to agree to increase spending and buy more US weapons."

Glen Brown's avatar

True story. This morning at tennis there were 3 of us instead of 4. One gentleman said we will play Australian rules tennis. Glen will take on us two. I said " anything but Israeli rules tennis." Those rules would have me killing your women and children and removing you from the park and your native land.

Glen Brown's avatar

They grimaced and agreed.

Ray Joseph Cormier's avatar

This is becoming an EXISTENTIAL threat when a Senior US General proposes just marching into Kalingrad and taking it, as if Russia wouldn't react.

Ignorance and Military Fantasy: General Donahue’s Proposed U.S.-NATO Blitzkrieg Assault on Russia’s Kaliningrad Enclave

A Miscalculation Could Lead to a Thermonuclear Catastrophe. By Drago Bosnic

It appears that threatening thermonuclear superpowers has become a favorite pastime in the halls of power in Washington DC.

Just days after Lindsey Graham “warned” Moscow that the United States could bomb it just like it did to Iran, General Christopher Donahue, the commanding officer of USAREUR-AF (United States Army Europe and Africa), presented the new “Eastern Flank Deterrence Line” plan that envisages a blitzkrieg-style assault directed against Russia’s Kaliningrad enclave in the very heart of Western Europe.

According to his assessment, the area is “roughly 47 miles wide and surrounded by NATO on all sides and the [US] Army and its allies now have the capability to take that down from the ground in a timeframe that is unheard of and faster than we’ve ever been able to do.”

“We’ve already planned that and we’ve already developed it. The mass and momentum problem that Russia poses to us … we’ve developed the capability to make sure that we can stop that mass and momentum problem,” Donahue said....................................................................................

https://michelchossudovsky.substack.com/p/ignorance-military-fantasy-proposed-us-nato-blitzkrieg-russia

The Europe Brief's avatar

Is another country preparing to attack Ukraine?

Three and a half years ago, Russia invaded Ukraine, citing alleged violence and atrocities committed against national minorities. Today, there are signs that the Hungarian government may be preparing to follow a similar path.

A few days ago, an arson attempt was made on a church in a village in Transcarpathia inhabited by members of the Hungarian minority. Anti-Hungarian slogans were also spray-painted on its walls. The church itself was not damaged, and the graffiti was promptly removed by Ukrainian authorities within hours.

According to analysts independent of the Hungarian government, the attack may have been orchestrated by the Hungarian and/or Russian secret services as a provocation, possibly to create a pretext for military intervention.

wrknight's avatar

War is good for General Bullmoose and anything that's good for General Bullmoose is good for the U.S.A.

wdt parker's avatar

Jesus Christ in a sidecar! Who could possibly care what Condi Rice thinks about anything? Is Dan Quayle still alive? Can we get a call into him?

I'm kind of out of the loop on this one. But did Putin ever find the Nazis who poked the Russian bear one too many times?

Gregory Laxer's avatar

As I pointed out in this space quite a while ago, the US is testing Russia's military capabilities and they have proven delightfully (from US viewpoint) wanting!! That cretin Gen. Austin who helmed the Pentagon on Biden's watch let this truth slip out of his mouth in public at one point. But this is more than a test, as the general stated: it is an effort to actually exhaust Russia's military assets. That Russia is still bogged down and without military victory after 3 1/2 years exposes the sheer ludicrousness of the Russophobes who say that Putin plans to march against NATO itself and knock it on its ass!! Puh-leeze!! I also reiterate that Russia's economy is PUNY when viewed on the global stage. But they DO have those most desirable, those essential, natural resources, crude oil and natural gas. And the Ukraine, we're told, has some of the "rare earth minerals" crucial to high-tech devices. China has more, but of course China is in the crosshairs of US antagonism. Part of the Ukraine's price to be paid for continuing US assistance in this war was an agreement to give the US access to those special minerals. Extracting them from Mother Earth would be a lot easier in peacetime, yes? That aspect of the sad affair IS irrational, but in the bigger economic geo-political picture, this war is NOT senseless. Looking at the US's motivations reveals that the war makes almost perfect SENSE.

wrknight's avatar

Making sense doesn't make it right.

Denise Donaldson's avatar

Condi is usually wrong on everything, just on GP.

I can't agree with Putin's having any reasons besides wanting more territory and Ukraine's resources. I personally don't buy the "unprovoked" stance.

Lastly, I seriously doubt that Putin will end the war because his useful tool in the White House says to. But stranger things have happened.