When The Blob speaks, it always reverses the meaning. So death and destruction becomes peace, censorship becomes freedom of speech, and authoritarianism becomes democracy. Likewise, peaceful protest against mass murder becomes terrorism. Orwell made this clear many decades ago.
John, have you ever seen John Kirby, the NSA spokesperson, speak to the press? His words are the perfect example of what you mention. He can deflect any question, never answers anything directly and does it all earnestly and with such facial animation that I have to wonder if he really believes the blather he is issuing that comes so effortlessly. He is retired admiral and is undoubtedly a member of the deep state.
Yeah. Sometimes I wonder if AI and deepfake technologies are being used to generate these guys in real time (watch Blinken or Sullivan the next time they are on). They seem like emotionless bots. But then again, that is probably what we should expect from sociopaths and psychopaths; no emotions, just pure evil.
Anyone doubting there is a deep state can not be paying any attention after this latest set of votes.
I also think it demonstrates the futility of looking for immediate third-party point solutions. The amount of money, corruption, intimidation, and likely blackmail will turn any elected official, no matter the label or sincerity of the individual, into a tool of said deep state.
Electing a Ralph Nader, Jill Stein, RFK, or whoever, will not bring about change when the institutions are totally corrupted. This will have to be a bottom-up, long-term change - if there is enough time left before they kill us all.
Yes, I think so. There is no "savior" coming--no "Come to Jesus" moment that's going to change and reform a highly corrupted system quickly and painlessly.
Heh. That assumes, of course, that there will, in fact, BE an election in November.
What would it take to cancel ~ or "postpone" ~ it?
Another 9/11? Another Pandemic, but one that kills young and healthy people like the last one killed old and sick people? Another "Too Big To Let Fail" 2008-esque financial “¢risi$”?
When those who benefitted most from the first renditions of those events determine that they have even more to gain ~ economically, politically, and, particularly, mass psychologically ~ from a second go around, Who and/or What is going to stop them?
TomR you make good points. But I would say something is happening that offers hope - it is that one of, if not THE most powerful lobby, that of Israel, is being shaken to the core right now. All of the billionaire American Zionists are coming out of their bubbles of wealth to make outrageous statements about the protests going on that at last the public is seeing who these normally hidden big donors are and what zealots they are. Jonathan Greenblatt of the ADL calling for the national guard to throw protesters off the Columbia U. campus while at the same time labeling them all terrorist.
In general we are seeing just what side prominent Americans are on. It is notable that Norman Finkelstein, a truth-teller of long standing who never loses a debate because he sticks to the facts and has an encyclopedic knowledge of Israel/Palestine has yet to be invited by any of the MSM outlets, including Fox News to go on the air.
A fresh wind of truth is blowing prompted by the blatant support of the Gaza slaughter from Biden along with the fawning kid-glove treatment of Netanyahu.
I like to mention to people that Togo, an African country, has the same population as Israel. Who of us can say one word about Togo other than it is a poor country? Does it receive any US foreign aid (Israel is #1 by far)? What would the US say if Togo started killing people by the tens of thousands?
Again, yet, and still... : Permit me to recommend a very good way to start that "long-term change" : On Election Day, Vote "None Of These Candidates."
If a Critical Mass of conscious, concerned, and committed Americans did that; and then made damn sure that the politicians and their owners, operators, commanders, and controllers got that message and understood it... .
If That happened, that would be a very good way to begin that long-term change: starting with by starting to get rid of The Bottom of the whole System.
Hi Cliff, I really hope you're correct. I also note that some Holocaust survivors in NYC are standing with the student protesting against genocide. They speak truth that people like Greenblatt cannot counter.
The problem, as always, is getting the reporting out to the majority of citizens, most of whom I think are fair minded. One thing I observe is that different networks cover different stories and ignore others. The only way to find out what's going on is to listen or read international reporting and the alternative media. Unfortunately. many, many people are overwhelmed by the daily struggles of their lives to do so.
And I continue to wish both the ADL and AIPAC had to register as foreign agents.
Dennis, yup - saw Max talking about it. They will do whatever it takes to "protect" Israel, including sacrificing America and the rights of all its citizens.
"Arbeit macht frei" (work is freedom) was the Nazi slogan. "War is peace" is the Biden slogan. I hear The Biden administration was trying to decide on whether to use a picture of an A-bomb explosion or an H-bomb explosion for their new peace patches. I hear they're going to combine them into one super explosion. "Big war is big peace".
TRUMP SAYS PRO-PALESTINE CAMPUS PROTESTS ARE WORSE THAN DEADLY CHARLOTTESVILLE WHITE SUPREMACIST RALLY by Ben Samuels and Judy Maltz / Haaretz 25 Apr 24
Former U.S. President Donald Trump said the deadly 2017 white supremacist Charlottesville rally was "peanuts" compared to the current pro-Palestinian protests occurring on college campuses across the U.S.
"Crooked Joe Biden would say, constantly, that he ran because of Charlottesville. Well, if that's the case, he's done a really terrible job because Charlottesville is like a 'peanut' compared to the riots and anti-Israel protests that are happening all over our Country, RIGHT NOW," he posted on Truth Social.
"It's Crooked's fault because he sends the wrong message every single time. The fact is that Crooked Joe Biden HATES Israel and Hates the Jewish people," Trump continued, adding "the problem is that he HATES the Palestinians even more, and he just doesn't know what to do!?!?"
Trump earned some of his harshest criticism of his presidency for noting there were "very fine people on both sides" of the Charlottesville rally, a white nationalist march in opposition to a plan to remove a statue of Confederate General Robert E. Lee from a Charlottesville park. The rally was rife with explicitly antisemitic rhetoric and imagery, and culminated with a self-professed neo-Nazi driving his car into a crowd of counter-protesters and killing a woman.
Throughout the last week, hundreds of pro-Palestinian students at Columbia University, in defiance of orders from the administration, have been camping out on one of the main campus lawns. Last Thursday, over 100 students were taken into custody by New York police for defying orders to dismantle an unauthorized encampment on campus that was set up to pressure the administration to divest from Israel.
Inspired by the "Gaza Solidarity Encampment" at Columbia, students across the country have followed suit, holding sit-ins and pitching tents at prime locations on their respective campuses, demanding that their universities divest from Israel.
On Wednesday, police and state troopers clashed violently with protesters at the University of Southern California and the University of Texas in Austin, among other schools, with arrests reported. At New York University, the administration set up a plywood wall to block a main campus plaza, after several protesters were arrested there on Monday.
This is not, however, the first controversial comment Trump has made concerning Jewish people, Biden and the war in Gaza. Earlier in April, Trump said that "Any Jewish person that votes for Biden does not love Israel and, frankly, should be spoken to."
"Jewish people, by habit, they vote for the Democrat, and Black people by habit vote for the Democrats," he added.
During an interview with "Real America's Voice" Trump falsely claimed that Democrats are hesitant to discuss the October 7 attack because Biden "is no fan of Israel."
Incredible, but coming from Trump, maybe not. He loves to sort people into groups to denounce. But Biden - remember his remark to blacks that if they don't vote Democratic they aren't black? That may not be the exact words but close.
Dennis, you are right about the bible and interpretation, that's a virtue for those who make a profession of interpreting it...with sermons from pulpits every week.
Oh, it doesn't elude U.S. academia at all--U.S. academia is part of the MICIMATT, making scads of money from war and weapons spending as well as global imperial dominance.
Those inspiring young students protesting against genocide in Gaza have just begun to learn the face of American empire and its police state ...
I had a Friend who was an Engineer that Trained the Nuclear Submarine Crews, and Test them in their proficiency. Impressive machines. One of my fave. Doomsday movies is "On the Beach" w/ Gregory Peck & Ava Gardner. On the Beach being required reading when in School. I used to do Nuke Weapons Escorts when in the USAF. We were armed to the teeth during Transport. A Terrorist organization getting hold of `a MIRV. was our worst case scenario.SAC was my Major Command when in. "To Err was Human, To Forgive was not SAC Policy!!!" Met & knew many Permanent Majors & Captains, Warrant Officers too. A no longer relevant Grade discontinued I believe since I was in. They were mostly Helicopter Pilots when I was in SAC.
I believe Israel will use any weapons system if it feels threatened, or attacked because of their will to survive, and because of the past as a Soverign Nation since 1948 in the messed up Middle East. They are making an example out of the Palestinians and Gaza! For October 7th. obviously...!
Even with ballistic missiles there is the problem of decoys. Once objects are free of gravity and the resistance of air, a hollow sphere and a heavy warhead will travel right along side each other, impossible for any defense system to accurately distinguish phonies from the real thing as both travel along at 17,000 mph. That was a big reason the ABM idea wasn't plausible. But as you mention, now there are no-cost drones and armed drones that can fly together, overwhelming any number of Iron Dome defense missiles. There is no such thing as an iron dome of protection but it is a clever name, I'll admit.
When The Blob speaks, it always reverses the meaning. So death and destruction becomes peace, censorship becomes freedom of speech, and authoritarianism becomes democracy. Likewise, peaceful protest against mass murder becomes terrorism. Orwell made this clear many decades ago.
John, have you ever seen John Kirby, the NSA spokesperson, speak to the press? His words are the perfect example of what you mention. He can deflect any question, never answers anything directly and does it all earnestly and with such facial animation that I have to wonder if he really believes the blather he is issuing that comes so effortlessly. He is retired admiral and is undoubtedly a member of the deep state.
Yeah. Sometimes I wonder if AI and deepfake technologies are being used to generate these guys in real time (watch Blinken or Sullivan the next time they are on). They seem like emotionless bots. But then again, that is probably what we should expect from sociopaths and psychopaths; no emotions, just pure evil.
Anyone doubting there is a deep state can not be paying any attention after this latest set of votes.
I also think it demonstrates the futility of looking for immediate third-party point solutions. The amount of money, corruption, intimidation, and likely blackmail will turn any elected official, no matter the label or sincerity of the individual, into a tool of said deep state.
Electing a Ralph Nader, Jill Stein, RFK, or whoever, will not bring about change when the institutions are totally corrupted. This will have to be a bottom-up, long-term change - if there is enough time left before they kill us all.
Yes, I think so. There is no "savior" coming--no "Come to Jesus" moment that's going to change and reform a highly corrupted system quickly and painlessly.
You wrote:
"[I]n Murica it's not who has the most votes but WHO'S in control of counting the votes!
"That's how the US ended up with Genocide Joe Biden in 2020."
That's also how the US ended up with Corporal Bonespurs in 2016, remember? How much bitching and complaining did You do about that then?
But i guess the Electoral College system worked GREAT back then, eh? Guess the right people were doing the counting back then, eh?
Heh. GMAFB.
Heh. That assumes, of course, that there will, in fact, BE an election in November.
What would it take to cancel ~ or "postpone" ~ it?
Another 9/11? Another Pandemic, but one that kills young and healthy people like the last one killed old and sick people? Another "Too Big To Let Fail" 2008-esque financial “¢risi$”?
When those who benefitted most from the first renditions of those events determine that they have even more to gain ~ economically, politically, and, particularly, mass psychologically ~ from a second go around, Who and/or What is going to stop them?
TomR you make good points. But I would say something is happening that offers hope - it is that one of, if not THE most powerful lobby, that of Israel, is being shaken to the core right now. All of the billionaire American Zionists are coming out of their bubbles of wealth to make outrageous statements about the protests going on that at last the public is seeing who these normally hidden big donors are and what zealots they are. Jonathan Greenblatt of the ADL calling for the national guard to throw protesters off the Columbia U. campus while at the same time labeling them all terrorist.
In general we are seeing just what side prominent Americans are on. It is notable that Norman Finkelstein, a truth-teller of long standing who never loses a debate because he sticks to the facts and has an encyclopedic knowledge of Israel/Palestine has yet to be invited by any of the MSM outlets, including Fox News to go on the air.
A fresh wind of truth is blowing prompted by the blatant support of the Gaza slaughter from Biden along with the fawning kid-glove treatment of Netanyahu.
I like to mention to people that Togo, an African country, has the same population as Israel. Who of us can say one word about Togo other than it is a poor country? Does it receive any US foreign aid (Israel is #1 by far)? What would the US say if Togo started killing people by the tens of thousands?
They'd say, "How can make bucks out of this?"
Again, yet, and still... : Permit me to recommend a very good way to start that "long-term change" : On Election Day, Vote "None Of These Candidates."
If a Critical Mass of conscious, concerned, and committed Americans did that; and then made damn sure that the politicians and their owners, operators, commanders, and controllers got that message and understood it... .
If That happened, that would be a very good way to begin that long-term change: starting with by starting to get rid of The Bottom of the whole System.
Rather than "None Of These Candidates" you might want to change it to "None Of These Criminals". Same abbreviation but more truthful.
ALL the other Candidates from 3rd, 4th, 5th, etc Parties are not criminals. Thus "Candidate" is a better fit and term than "Criminals."
Hi Cliff, I really hope you're correct. I also note that some Holocaust survivors in NYC are standing with the student protesting against genocide. They speak truth that people like Greenblatt cannot counter.
The problem, as always, is getting the reporting out to the majority of citizens, most of whom I think are fair minded. One thing I observe is that different networks cover different stories and ignore others. The only way to find out what's going on is to listen or read international reporting and the alternative media. Unfortunately. many, many people are overwhelmed by the daily struggles of their lives to do so.
And I continue to wish both the ADL and AIPAC had to register as foreign agents.
Dennis, yup - saw Max talking about it. They will do whatever it takes to "protect" Israel, including sacrificing America and the rights of all its citizens.
"Arbeit macht frei" (work is freedom) was the Nazi slogan. "War is peace" is the Biden slogan. I hear The Biden administration was trying to decide on whether to use a picture of an A-bomb explosion or an H-bomb explosion for their new peace patches. I hear they're going to combine them into one super explosion. "Big war is big peace".
Reminds me of the old SAC (strategic air command) motto: "Peace is our profession."
And the snarky rejoinder: "War is our hobby."
Or the marine sniper slogan (supposedly) - "Don't run - you'll only die tired". Such bravado.
Out of the mouths of Idiots... :
TRUMP SAYS PRO-PALESTINE CAMPUS PROTESTS ARE WORSE THAN DEADLY CHARLOTTESVILLE WHITE SUPREMACIST RALLY by Ben Samuels and Judy Maltz / Haaretz 25 Apr 24
Former U.S. President Donald Trump said the deadly 2017 white supremacist Charlottesville rally was "peanuts" compared to the current pro-Palestinian protests occurring on college campuses across the U.S.
"Crooked Joe Biden would say, constantly, that he ran because of Charlottesville. Well, if that's the case, he's done a really terrible job because Charlottesville is like a 'peanut' compared to the riots and anti-Israel protests that are happening all over our Country, RIGHT NOW," he posted on Truth Social.
"It's Crooked's fault because he sends the wrong message every single time. The fact is that Crooked Joe Biden HATES Israel and Hates the Jewish people," Trump continued, adding "the problem is that he HATES the Palestinians even more, and he just doesn't know what to do!?!?"
Trump earned some of his harshest criticism of his presidency for noting there were "very fine people on both sides" of the Charlottesville rally, a white nationalist march in opposition to a plan to remove a statue of Confederate General Robert E. Lee from a Charlottesville park. The rally was rife with explicitly antisemitic rhetoric and imagery, and culminated with a self-professed neo-Nazi driving his car into a crowd of counter-protesters and killing a woman.
Throughout the last week, hundreds of pro-Palestinian students at Columbia University, in defiance of orders from the administration, have been camping out on one of the main campus lawns. Last Thursday, over 100 students were taken into custody by New York police for defying orders to dismantle an unauthorized encampment on campus that was set up to pressure the administration to divest from Israel.
Inspired by the "Gaza Solidarity Encampment" at Columbia, students across the country have followed suit, holding sit-ins and pitching tents at prime locations on their respective campuses, demanding that their universities divest from Israel.
On Wednesday, police and state troopers clashed violently with protesters at the University of Southern California and the University of Texas in Austin, among other schools, with arrests reported. At New York University, the administration set up a plywood wall to block a main campus plaza, after several protesters were arrested there on Monday.
This is not, however, the first controversial comment Trump has made concerning Jewish people, Biden and the war in Gaza. Earlier in April, Trump said that "Any Jewish person that votes for Biden does not love Israel and, frankly, should be spoken to."
"Jewish people, by habit, they vote for the Democrat, and Black people by habit vote for the Democrats," he added.
During an interview with "Real America's Voice" Trump falsely claimed that Democrats are hesitant to discuss the October 7 attack because Biden "is no fan of Israel."
Source: https://www.haaretz.com/us-news/2024-04-25/ty-article/.premium/trump-says-pro-palestinian-campus-protests-are-worse-than-deadly-white-supremacist-rally/0000018f-1575-d2e1-a7df-15f71de10000 .
Incredible, but coming from Trump, maybe not. He loves to sort people into groups to denounce. But Biden - remember his remark to blacks that if they don't vote Democratic they aren't black? That may not be the exact words but close.
But the U.S. doesn't spend more money than anyone on war, Bill. It's for peace ☮️
Just ask Joe or the NY Slime.
Linking once again at https://nothingnewunderthesun2016.com/
Bill, I'm stealing that latest Gaza graphic.
Thanks for the graphics, Bill. I think it helps spread the word better than a narrative at times.
A fine Star Trek episode, Ray. Thanks for the reminder.
Thankee for sharing that, Ray.
The problem of religious texts is interpreting fantasy into daily living. Just don't do it. Find religion in helping people you can see.
Dennis, you are right about the bible and interpretation, that's a virtue for those who make a profession of interpreting it...with sermons from pulpits every week.
Praise Absurdism :)
Dennis, don't forget Trump is selling Bibles and that he's said it's the most important book to his life.
Do you agree with Trump's tactic of selling Bibles and touting their critical importance to his followers?
Can You cite where You got each of those interpretations from? i'd like to see what else they say. Thank You.
Oh, it doesn't elude U.S. academia at all--U.S. academia is part of the MICIMATT, making scads of money from war and weapons spending as well as global imperial dominance.
Those inspiring young students protesting against genocide in Gaza have just begun to learn the face of American empire and its police state ...
If those Trident II D5 missiles are ever launched, Dennis, we'll all we redundant, as in dead.
I had a Friend who was an Engineer that Trained the Nuclear Submarine Crews, and Test them in their proficiency. Impressive machines. One of my fave. Doomsday movies is "On the Beach" w/ Gregory Peck & Ava Gardner. On the Beach being required reading when in School. I used to do Nuke Weapons Escorts when in the USAF. We were armed to the teeth during Transport. A Terrorist organization getting hold of `a MIRV. was our worst case scenario.SAC was my Major Command when in. "To Err was Human, To Forgive was not SAC Policy!!!" Met & knew many Permanent Majors & Captains, Warrant Officers too. A no longer relevant Grade discontinued I believe since I was in. They were mostly Helicopter Pilots when I was in SAC.
I believe Israel will use any weapons system if it feels threatened, or attacked because of their will to survive, and because of the past as a Soverign Nation since 1948 in the messed up Middle East. They are making an example out of the Palestinians and Gaza! For October 7th. obviously...!
The 'Threads' movie chilled me the most.
i promise not to tell him... .
Even with ballistic missiles there is the problem of decoys. Once objects are free of gravity and the resistance of air, a hollow sphere and a heavy warhead will travel right along side each other, impossible for any defense system to accurately distinguish phonies from the real thing as both travel along at 17,000 mph. That was a big reason the ABM idea wasn't plausible. But as you mention, now there are no-cost drones and armed drones that can fly together, overwhelming any number of Iron Dome defense missiles. There is no such thing as an iron dome of protection but it is a clever name, I'll admit.
How about those "Scuds" basically a flying Buick lol did they ever hit anything?, but the Ocean...
If I didn't miscount decimals -
$100 billion divided by 500 thousand homeless people = $200,000 each.
This doesn't include the amount of money used in police "sweeps".
Can't our rulers at least find a cheaper way of killing people? Is that too much to ask?
When it comes to helping people any amount is too much. When it comes to killing money is no object.