Democratic National Convention chairman Jamie Harrison said in a statement that “in the coming days, the Party will undertake a transparent and orderly process to move forward as a united Democratic Party with a candidate who can defeat Donald Trump in November.”
“This process will be governed by established rules and procedures of the Party. Our delegates are prepared to take seriously their responsibility in swiftly delivering a candidate to the American people,” he added.
Dear Reader, I can’t wait for the most open, fair, and “transparent” process ever, as Democratic powerbrokers come together to choose their candidate for the presidency in 2024.
Of course he doesn't! The guy does not know where he is located in space. Seems unlikely he knows that he is president, until he's drugged, reminded, and coached.
I appreciate your comment because it highlights what's been driving me nuts about news coverage since his debate with Trump-
We saw Biden. He can't finish a thought. He cannot walk off a stage. And they mean to tell us that he stubbornly resisted stepping down as the nominee?
Of course, Harris as VP has already, in previous speculations been given by some high-profile Dems and media types the front-runner if not 'presumptive nominee' tag.
The deciders will be primarily interested in two things. First, the question of her polling vis a vis Trump. Second, and, I suspect most important to them, will be the question of how obediently the nominee would, as President, carry on the status quo that benefits those elites and those whose interests they represent.
On the latter question, I suspect Harris ticks for them the box. Her entire career has been one of bending to power; and of not walking the talk but yielding to political pragmatism. As for the electability / polling question, it is a very mixed bag. She doesn't do as badly as Biden has been doing in those numbers (where most if not all polls indicated a Trump win); but they don't exactly inspire confidence, either.
I know only two things. One is that whomever the Dems nominate will again be unacceptable to me; for they will only be nominated if they'll continue the policies we've seen from Clinton, Obama and Biden; i.e., deference to Wall Street, a few crackers to the peons, fuel to keep the culture wars going, and unlimited funding for war-making and other aspects of hegemonic maintenance.
The second follows in that vein, because, barring some miracle, I'll once again be unhappy with the outcome- because either Trump or yet another corporate, anti-democratic Dem will likely be the winner. So we'll likely have to look forward to another 4 years of growing wars and yet closer approach to global thermonuclear war even as the climate control system is destabilized towards the point of chaos.
Dennis, The D's have generally embraced their roles as the more aggressive of warmongers and distributors of the public treasury to the MIC; and Trump seems to be more of a wild card on such matters. As I've said before though, Trump's selection of hawks Pompeo and (especially) Bolton to run foreign policy in his Administration, along with his more recent words about Israel 'finishing the job' of the genocide and about Iran and China do not give me any sense of real hope, either. I do think that Trump would try to ratchet down involvement in the Ukraine War - perhaps cutting or gradually diminishing aid. Yet even that is not a certainty because the Deep State that is so protective of its organ, NATO, will undermine him at every turn. There is nothing I think them incapable of. I think of their ability to do false flag bombings, atrocities or to commit other incidents that provoke Russia and leave Trump unable to do anything but respond as they are intending.
I think you're inclined to give Trump far too much credit or otherwise have far more faith than I think he warrants on this score. But to be honest, I think we're going to have the opportunity to see how he performs in a second term.
The Biden agenda is gone. Thank goodness. This is going to put a big damper on the Ukraine war effort, and may even put more pressure on Israel. But as long as Blinken and Sullivan keep pulling the strings from the dark corners of the White house, the slaughter will continue. If the Dems were smart (they aren't) they would have Biden resign so that Harris became the first woman president. That would give her 4 months as president going into the Nov. election. I don't think it would be enough to get her elected, but it would give her a far better chance. If by some miracle she beat Trump, she would probably keep the entire WH staff on, and nothing would change. Not that I am saying Trump would change things for the better, we would just get different horrible policies.
This was the obvious thing to do, but we have been instructed again how power protects itself.
There are so many obvious things to do - act on guns, drive less and get smaller vehicles or EV's to reduce CO2. Pledge not to be first to use nuclear weapons. Stop the pointless war in Ukraine. House the homeless. Tax the rich. Cut the military budget. Get rid of the electoral college and what is right in front of our faces proven more powerfully with each election - get rid of private funding of election campaigns.
But we the people just put up with what doesn't touch us directly or immediately. Figuratively and literally we drive on.
What comes first is intention. She has the intention and is openly stating it, none of the others are. A journey begins with the first step and that first step comes from the intention to make the trip. At one time nobody could imagine not having a monarch. Then the possibility was considered. Now monarchs are few and usually are figureheads. Change happens and the greatest barrier to it is the belief that change is impossible because of the way things are. Even concrete cracks.
Harris is mostly known for incarcerating large numbers of people of color. That experience on her part may be appealing to our corporate overlords as they seek to continue building wealth on the stolen labor of others.
I don’t think Harris has a chance. The powers in the Democrat party know that she lacks “gravitas” both at home and abroad. The party doesn’t want to have another Hubert Humphrey moment. Nixon exploited the LBJ and Humphrey connection with their failed policies in Vietnam. She will be tied to Biden by the Republicans. I suppose Trump would love her as his punch bag. He will certainly tie the failed Ukraine policy around her neck.
I think this was anticipated so it's not so much of a surprise. It seems clear that if Biden hadn't dropped out by today, the big guns in the Democratic party would have begun openly calling for his withdrawal this coming week.
I agree on your perspective on Harris. I think - in spite of her reputation given her speeches - she will appear more solid than she actually is. In Senate hearings - just like in her time as CA attorney general - when she was prepared and was in control of the dialogue she was forceful. She will do better than Biden in press conferences - where the questioners are all pre-selected. The only open issue will be how she would fare in a debate with Trump.
All in all, she's the perfect candidate for establishment politics.
The role of a Vice-President is not to take the spotlight away from the President. We'll see how Harris turns out before the Convention. Being of an Indian heritage, she should get along great with Vance's wife, also descendent from Indian Parents.
Harris' mother taught University at McGill University and Kamala lived in Montreal for a Time.
Dennis, if you want to label people holding different views delusional - that's your choice. But I'm not sure it helps the dialogue.
No matter what happens in any debate(s), Trump supporters will say he won and wiped the floor with her; Harris (likely now inevitable as the Dems candidate) supporters will claim likewise. The only ones who count are the undecided in the key swing states - who might need the debates to resolve any lingering questions about either candidate.
And in terms of Trump's debate performances. Biden's recent self-immolation doesn't count. Going against a relatively competent performer as he did against Clinton in 2016, a CNN poll back then only showed 24% believing he won the first debate; his high-water mark was 32% in the second debate. A brief scan of 2020 articles indicates polling results that indicated Biden won by substantial margins.
Ij don't support - and won't vote - for either candidate. But just observing,it's clear the Democratic strategy this fall is going to be based on three things: "Trump, Trump, Trump", "Extreme MAGA", and abortion - it's all over our TV here with the early August primary. Fear sells.
Bill daresay you've piqued the interest of the finance capital wing if the power elite.
Lol. Looks like you've got some trolls around lately! Reminds me of how i have 100 Twitter followers and not a single one of them knows who i am. Just came out of the blue. (I didn't even intend to pun there.)
It was an overdue first step. (Of course, he had no business running in the first place.) Now, he should resign. He has endorsed Harris--give her a chance, however short.
He should not resign. His has been one of the most consequential presidencies in memory. The accomplishments even with the tea pugs doing everything in their power to disrupt any legislation and the corporate media nor align the orange lizard are too numerous to list. Not going to say there have not been mistakes but the right wing christo fascist ecosystem both domestic and foreign are doing everything in their power to defeat democracy. Joe righted the ship and has a great team in place so you and Mr. Astore should be a little more circumspect in my humble opinion.
It's not about Biden's "great team" or his past record. The issue is whether Biden is healthy enough to serve as president until January 2025. Are you sure he is? How do you know? What's your evidence?
What’s your Bill? He had a bad debate and he’s in the toughest job in the world. I’m glad he dropped out and now the Dems have to step up and do the ground game they didn’t do in 2016. But I will take Biden for 5 more months than not because of his history and the team in place.
1. Biden has pulled out of the race after saying he never would.
2. Biden's debate performance versus Trump.
3. Biden's calling Zelensky "Putin" and calling VP Harris "Trump"
4. Numerous errors by Biden and his failure to recognize people he's long known. Congressman Seth Moulton wrote about this.
And I could go on. The point is that Joe Biden isn't fully capable 24/7, and America needs a president who is. So he could name VP Harris as his replacement, which I think would help her win, assuming that's something you want.
Look, I get all that. He’s a stutterer and he’s made speech gaffs his whole life but he should still finish his presidential term in my opinion, just my opinion.
Let’s put the genocide title where it belongs; on Hamas AND Bibi. He’s a criminal like the orange lizard trying to stay out of prison. There are lots of reasons for the current situation in the ME but no simple answer. We can’t make Israel and their current right wing govt do anything
I believe Biden is incapable of doing the most dangerous to the world job (ordering nuclear war) there is. He is not competent to respond to demands of comnader in chief.
The appropriate action is for Biden to resign tomorrow.
If he does not show honor and loyalty to the office of president and the constitution to resign then the 25th Amendment process should be effected in the open.
If he’s not fit to run, how erncan any justification be made for his remaining in office, something much more demanding than talking it up with voters? Governing demands discernment, something he doesn’t have.
No I haven’t, so I can’t know if he’s competent or not so I’m going to trust the adults that are in the room. You can think what you want but you have no evidence to base a decision on.
Even more important, imo, he should exit the presidency. July through January is too long for a man with steadily worsening dementia to be president. He could have continued campaigning for all I cared, but remaining in the presidency is not a good look for the United States. Who will take advantage of this situation: China, Russia, or even friends like Canada or Mexico? And we don’t elect “teams” to run the country; we elect a single person. And Biden cannot do the job. I read somewhere today that there has not been a full cabinet meeting in a year. What else has not happened that should have, or converselyare, what has happened that should not have? We are heading for a full blown constitutional crisis now. If he’s not ok to run, he’s not ok to govern.
Credit Alex Christoforou of theduran, who discusses the (Z)elensky curse: any government leader who hugs (Z)elensky (literally or figuratively) is governing on very borrowed time.
Joe stated that he stepped down in the best interest of the party and the country. Hmmm...seems that his priorities are backwards, no? Shouldn't it have been for the country (first) and the party (second)?🤷🏼♂️ I'm just saying...
If Foghorn Leghorn was running against Trump, my mail in ballot would already be made out for Foghorn sitting on my desk awaiting to be mailed on the earliest date.
This statement by the DNC made me laugh:
Democratic National Convention chairman Jamie Harrison said in a statement that “in the coming days, the Party will undertake a transparent and orderly process to move forward as a united Democratic Party with a candidate who can defeat Donald Trump in November.”
“This process will be governed by established rules and procedures of the Party. Our delegates are prepared to take seriously their responsibility in swiftly delivering a candidate to the American people,” he added.
Dear Reader, I can’t wait for the most open, fair, and “transparent” process ever, as Democratic powerbrokers come together to choose their candidate for the presidency in 2024.
I'm guessing their transparent meetings will have lots of Secret Service protection.
Of course he doesn't! The guy does not know where he is located in space. Seems unlikely he knows that he is president, until he's drugged, reminded, and coached.
I appreciate your comment because it highlights what's been driving me nuts about news coverage since his debate with Trump-
We saw Biden. He can't finish a thought. He cannot walk off a stage. And they mean to tell us that he stubbornly resisted stepping down as the nominee?
Give me a break!
Gosh, you two sure have a lot of confidence in your take on Joe. Maybe one of you should run for something. Or maybe you should both just be quiet.
You sure are a lot of fun.
Of course, Harris as VP has already, in previous speculations been given by some high-profile Dems and media types the front-runner if not 'presumptive nominee' tag.
The deciders will be primarily interested in two things. First, the question of her polling vis a vis Trump. Second, and, I suspect most important to them, will be the question of how obediently the nominee would, as President, carry on the status quo that benefits those elites and those whose interests they represent.
On the latter question, I suspect Harris ticks for them the box. Her entire career has been one of bending to power; and of not walking the talk but yielding to political pragmatism. As for the electability / polling question, it is a very mixed bag. She doesn't do as badly as Biden has been doing in those numbers (where most if not all polls indicated a Trump win); but they don't exactly inspire confidence, either.
I know only two things. One is that whomever the Dems nominate will again be unacceptable to me; for they will only be nominated if they'll continue the policies we've seen from Clinton, Obama and Biden; i.e., deference to Wall Street, a few crackers to the peons, fuel to keep the culture wars going, and unlimited funding for war-making and other aspects of hegemonic maintenance.
The second follows in that vein, because, barring some miracle, I'll once again be unhappy with the outcome- because either Trump or yet another corporate, anti-democratic Dem will likely be the winner. So we'll likely have to look forward to another 4 years of growing wars and yet closer approach to global thermonuclear war even as the climate control system is destabilized towards the point of chaos.
Dennis, The D's have generally embraced their roles as the more aggressive of warmongers and distributors of the public treasury to the MIC; and Trump seems to be more of a wild card on such matters. As I've said before though, Trump's selection of hawks Pompeo and (especially) Bolton to run foreign policy in his Administration, along with his more recent words about Israel 'finishing the job' of the genocide and about Iran and China do not give me any sense of real hope, either. I do think that Trump would try to ratchet down involvement in the Ukraine War - perhaps cutting or gradually diminishing aid. Yet even that is not a certainty because the Deep State that is so protective of its organ, NATO, will undermine him at every turn. There is nothing I think them incapable of. I think of their ability to do false flag bombings, atrocities or to commit other incidents that provoke Russia and leave Trump unable to do anything but respond as they are intending.
I think you're inclined to give Trump far too much credit or otherwise have far more faith than I think he warrants on this score. But to be honest, I think we're going to have the opportunity to see how he performs in a second term.
The Biden agenda is gone. Thank goodness. This is going to put a big damper on the Ukraine war effort, and may even put more pressure on Israel. But as long as Blinken and Sullivan keep pulling the strings from the dark corners of the White house, the slaughter will continue. If the Dems were smart (they aren't) they would have Biden resign so that Harris became the first woman president. That would give her 4 months as president going into the Nov. election. I don't think it would be enough to get her elected, but it would give her a far better chance. If by some miracle she beat Trump, she would probably keep the entire WH staff on, and nothing would change. Not that I am saying Trump would change things for the better, we would just get different horrible policies.
This was the obvious thing to do, but we have been instructed again how power protects itself.
There are so many obvious things to do - act on guns, drive less and get smaller vehicles or EV's to reduce CO2. Pledge not to be first to use nuclear weapons. Stop the pointless war in Ukraine. House the homeless. Tax the rich. Cut the military budget. Get rid of the electoral college and what is right in front of our faces proven more powerfully with each election - get rid of private funding of election campaigns.
But we the people just put up with what doesn't touch us directly or immediately. Figuratively and literally we drive on.
Dennis, you are back to "Clif you are a fool"
What comes first is intention. She has the intention and is openly stating it, none of the others are. A journey begins with the first step and that first step comes from the intention to make the trip. At one time nobody could imagine not having a monarch. Then the possibility was considered. Now monarchs are few and usually are figureheads. Change happens and the greatest barrier to it is the belief that change is impossible because of the way things are. Even concrete cracks.
Harris is mostly known for incarcerating large numbers of people of color. That experience on her part may be appealing to our corporate overlords as they seek to continue building wealth on the stolen labor of others.
I don’t think Harris has a chance. The powers in the Democrat party know that she lacks “gravitas” both at home and abroad. The party doesn’t want to have another Hubert Humphrey moment. Nixon exploited the LBJ and Humphrey connection with their failed policies in Vietnam. She will be tied to Biden by the Republicans. I suppose Trump would love her as his punch bag. He will certainly tie the failed Ukraine policy around her neck.
I think this was anticipated so it's not so much of a surprise. It seems clear that if Biden hadn't dropped out by today, the big guns in the Democratic party would have begun openly calling for his withdrawal this coming week.
I agree on your perspective on Harris. I think - in spite of her reputation given her speeches - she will appear more solid than she actually is. In Senate hearings - just like in her time as CA attorney general - when she was prepared and was in control of the dialogue she was forceful. She will do better than Biden in press conferences - where the questioners are all pre-selected. The only open issue will be how she would fare in a debate with Trump.
All in all, she's the perfect candidate for establishment politics.
The role of a Vice-President is not to take the spotlight away from the President. We'll see how Harris turns out before the Convention. Being of an Indian heritage, she should get along great with Vance's wife, also descendent from Indian Parents.
Harris' mother taught University at McGill University and Kamala lived in Montreal for a Time.
I think you'll be proved wrong if there is another debate. She'll challenge Trump's lies as he speaks them. Trump may cancel, not Harris!
I have the patience to wait and see!
Dennis, if you want to label people holding different views delusional - that's your choice. But I'm not sure it helps the dialogue.
No matter what happens in any debate(s), Trump supporters will say he won and wiped the floor with her; Harris (likely now inevitable as the Dems candidate) supporters will claim likewise. The only ones who count are the undecided in the key swing states - who might need the debates to resolve any lingering questions about either candidate.
And in terms of Trump's debate performances. Biden's recent self-immolation doesn't count. Going against a relatively competent performer as he did against Clinton in 2016, a CNN poll back then only showed 24% believing he won the first debate; his high-water mark was 32% in the second debate. A brief scan of 2020 articles indicates polling results that indicated Biden won by substantial margins.
Ij don't support - and won't vote - for either candidate. But just observing,it's clear the Democratic strategy this fall is going to be based on three things: "Trump, Trump, Trump", "Extreme MAGA", and abortion - it's all over our TV here with the early August primary. Fear sells.
Bill daresay you've piqued the interest of the finance capital wing if the power elite.
Lol. Looks like you've got some trolls around lately! Reminds me of how i have 100 Twitter followers and not a single one of them knows who i am. Just came out of the blue. (I didn't even intend to pun there.)
It was an overdue first step. (Of course, he had no business running in the first place.) Now, he should resign. He has endorsed Harris--give her a chance, however short.
He should not resign. His has been one of the most consequential presidencies in memory. The accomplishments even with the tea pugs doing everything in their power to disrupt any legislation and the corporate media nor align the orange lizard are too numerous to list. Not going to say there have not been mistakes but the right wing christo fascist ecosystem both domestic and foreign are doing everything in their power to defeat democracy. Joe righted the ship and has a great team in place so you and Mr. Astore should be a little more circumspect in my humble opinion.
It's not about Biden's "great team" or his past record. The issue is whether Biden is healthy enough to serve as president until January 2025. Are you sure he is? How do you know? What's your evidence?
What’s your Bill? He had a bad debate and he’s in the toughest job in the world. I’m glad he dropped out and now the Dems have to step up and do the ground game they didn’t do in 2016. But I will take Biden for 5 more months than not because of his history and the team in place.
Here's my evidence:
1. Biden has pulled out of the race after saying he never would.
2. Biden's debate performance versus Trump.
3. Biden's calling Zelensky "Putin" and calling VP Harris "Trump"
4. Numerous errors by Biden and his failure to recognize people he's long known. Congressman Seth Moulton wrote about this.
And I could go on. The point is that Joe Biden isn't fully capable 24/7, and America needs a president who is. So he could name VP Harris as his replacement, which I think would help her win, assuming that's something you want.
Look, I get all that. He’s a stutterer and he’s made speech gaffs his whole life but he should still finish his presidential term in my opinion, just my opinion.
The MAGA’s are a cult, that’s a fact whether you like it or not. That’s why the orange lizard loves the less educated.
Let’s put the genocide title where it belongs; on Hamas AND Bibi. He’s a criminal like the orange lizard trying to stay out of prison. There are lots of reasons for the current situation in the ME but no simple answer. We can’t make Israel and their current right wing govt do anything
Want to make Israel do something? Cut off the flow of weapons and massive U.S. aid. I guarantee you Israel will do something.
How do You think the MICC would react and respond to that, Bill?
Without US bombs, missiles, money and spare parts Israel could bomb nothing in Palestine.
I believe Biden is incapable of doing the most dangerous to the world job (ordering nuclear war) there is. He is not competent to respond to demands of comnader in chief.
The appropriate action is for Biden to resign tomorrow.
If he does not show honor and loyalty to the office of president and the constitution to resign then the 25th Amendment process should be effected in the open.
If he’s not fit to run, how erncan any justification be made for his remaining in office, something much more demanding than talking it up with voters? Governing demands discernment, something he doesn’t have.
Have you been in any meeting with Joe? Ok, I thought so. You talk again when you’ve been in meetings with him.
Have you sat in meetings with Joe? Asking for a friend.
No I haven’t, so I can’t know if he’s competent or not so I’m going to trust the adults that are in the room. You can think what you want but you have no evidence to base a decision on.
*can, not erncan
Even more important, imo, he should exit the presidency. July through January is too long for a man with steadily worsening dementia to be president. He could have continued campaigning for all I cared, but remaining in the presidency is not a good look for the United States. Who will take advantage of this situation: China, Russia, or even friends like Canada or Mexico? And we don’t elect “teams” to run the country; we elect a single person. And Biden cannot do the job. I read somewhere today that there has not been a full cabinet meeting in a year. What else has not happened that should have, or converselyare, what has happened that should not have? We are heading for a full blown constitutional crisis now. If he’s not ok to run, he’s not ok to govern.
Credit Alex Christoforou of theduran, who discusses the (Z)elensky curse: any government leader who hugs (Z)elensky (literally or figuratively) is governing on very borrowed time.
Joe stated that he stepped down in the best interest of the party and the country. Hmmm...seems that his priorities are backwards, no? Shouldn't it have been for the country (first) and the party (second)?🤷🏼♂️ I'm just saying...
Giving 150 Billion to Raytheon isn't in thrCountry's best interest.
Of course Biden could always wake up tomorrow and say he takes it all back.
Harris, the Bidens, Clintons vs the Obamas, Pelosi, Newsom? https://www.nationalreview.com/news/obama-declines-to-endorse-harris-in-statement-praising-biden-withdrawal-predicts-outstanding-nominee-will-emerge
Thanks, Alex.
With a nod to The Godfather, perhaps Obama just hasn't yet decided what "favor"he expects for his support of Harris.
Who sleeps with the fishes?
Maybe Hunter.
Maybe Zelensky.
I forgot about him....I thought he was going to wind up like Hyman Roth in Miami.
If Foghorn Leghorn was running against Trump, my mail in ballot would already be made out for Foghorn sitting on my desk awaiting to be mailed on the earliest date.
Now we'll be living in INTERESTING TIMES!
We already are. Hopefully not fatally interesting.