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TomG's avatar

This made me think of something Ruby Sales said in her interview in "On Being."

"I think that one of the things that theologies must have is hindsight, insight, and foresight. That is complete sight. And I think that fragmentation really shatters that sight, and it says that it’s not an 'I' sight, it’s a 'we' sight. And so that I think one of the things — I don’t like aging a whole lot. The ankles, the knees hurt, etc. But one of the things I do like is that from where I sit on my front porch, I have hindsight, insight, and foresight. And that’s a beautiful gift of aging."

It is too bad our egoist, narcissistic leaders never sit on their porch and ponder their desperate need for hindsight, insight, and foresight.

Charlie Kaften's avatar

We are living in a post-factual, world, where truth is whatever you want it to be. A twisted world that combines the essence of Kakfa, Orwell and Huxley, all rolled into one.

War is peace.

Freedom is slavery.

Ignorance is strength.

Bill Astore's avatar

So, I'm a cockroach trapped in a totalitarian nightmare in which Henry Ford is god? :-)

jg moebus's avatar

Heh. Now THAT is a DFQ, or Damn Fine Question, Bill, as they put it in the parlance. Damn Fine.

Fireman1110's avatar

And most would rather be unlike Socrates: "Happily living in their unexamined lives."

John R Moffett's avatar

The western "media" is the primary propaganda organ of the wealthy, and it is definitely not meant to "inform" the audience. The news has always been owned by and tainted by the wealthy, and has never been a source of unbiased information, but it is so much worse now than it was back in the 1960s, when it was biased, but not pure fantasy. Now it is almost diametrically opposite of reality. What I can't figure out is how anyone can watch or read their nonsense and not feel insulted.

jg moebus's avatar

The simple facts of the matter, Bill, are that the people running this government have been lying to the American Peoples for a long, long time.

Starting with 9/11, and then Saddam's "WMDs," the 2008 "Too-Big-To-Fail" financial "¢risi$," The COVID Event, Ukraine, and now Gaza.

And before that it was about first an incident in the Tonkin Gulf and then how well everything was going 50-to-60 years ago in a place called Vietnam.

The problem is that the American Peoples keep swallowing all this Bullshit, and then wonder why everything is so screwed up.

wrknight's avatar

I am reminded of a song my mother used to sing to me when I was less truthful in my answers to her questions. The lyrics go:

"It may be so, but I don't know

It sounds so goddam queer,

I hate like hell to doubt your word,

But your bullshit won't go here."

My apologies to my late mom for having edited the lyrics.

Alex's avatar

Really most of the mainstream news media just repeats what Biden and the ruling (Democrat) elites say. If Biden said the sun rises in the west and sets in the east the news media would just repeat that until about a third of the country believed it. Maybe more.

Ed's avatar

Biden is the best president the neocon can own.

USA has no moral authority.

jg moebus's avatar

Do You think Trump was any better than Biden re: who controlled him? Or would control him now?

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jg moebus's avatar

It was also Trump who failed to reign in Kiev's slaughter of 14,000+ Eastern Ukrainians; thus providing Putin with the perfect excuse ~ and rationale ~ for his Special Military Operation.

Almost like it was planned to work that way, eh?

wrknight's avatar

But don't forget, it was Victoria Nuland under the tutelage of Hillary Clinton and Barak Obama that ignited the fire leading to the deaths of those 14,000 eastern Ukrainians.

You can blame Trump for not extinguishing that fire, but once started, those kinds of fires are hard to extinguish.

On the other hand, instead of attempting to extinguish that fire, Biden has only thrown more gasoline on it.

jg moebus's avatar

The coup in Kyiv happened on Obama's watch. All Trump did was continue and amplify the process leading inevitably to America's War with Russia in Ukraine. Just like he was instructed to do; and just like it was planned to happen back in 2014. No matter who "won" the White House in 2016, or again in 2020.

And had he not followed those instructions, he would not have spent 4 years of the throne.

And if he gets elected in November [assuming there is an election], he will continue to follow instructions, or he won't get a full term on the throne this time.

And one can only imagine what would happen if Russia followed his advice and attacked those NATO nations who are behind on their dues.

You can bet that the MICC would love for Russia to do exactly that. And then, when Trump rushes American arms, equipment, and ultimately troops to rescue the attacked NATO nations, he will sell himself as a "defender of life, liberty, and the American Way."

Once a scumbag, always a scumbag; as they put it in the parlance.

jg moebus's avatar

Thank You, Bill, for cross-posting Lisa Savage's latest Substack piece "The Grieving, And The Resistance."

The Question is: When are the American Peoples going to demand that this be stopped? And how are they going to demand it so that it actually IS stopped?

Does anybody here at BV have any thoughts on that?

Ed's avatar

Trump was attacked by the democrat wing of the blob. He frightened them, but was not served by his appointees who were a part of the problem.

Maybe he will be more savvy in 2025.

jg moebus's avatar

If elected and If he wants to survive his whole term, he will continue to do exactly as he was told to do. Which is the only reason he got four years on the throne the first time around.

Jazzme's avatar

Isee what you see. The world See's what we see yet the duopoly give us no other choices. Maybe both conventions will give us candidates worth of our choosing othet than Trump/Biden.Does anyone see that coming or am I groping in the dark.

Bill Astore's avatar

Sad to say I don't see the duopoly providing us with better choices. They'll do their best to get us to "see" Biden/Trump as a meaningful choice, if only in the "lesser of two evils" sense.

jg moebus's avatar

Or, the evil of two lessers, as the case may be,

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jg moebus's avatar

If You actually believe that it's the Public and not the Politicians that suck, Dennis, You ought to give serious consideration to relocating to Russia or China where that perspective reigns supreme.

There, The Leader[s] can do no wrong. And anybody who says they can and/or do do wrong gets eliminated or sent to the Gulag.

And who is this "we" You speak of that can do no wrong?

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jg moebus's avatar

BTW, i agree with Hitchens.

But what is truly needed is a better system of government and governance: One that protects the Human Rights of its Citizens and facilitates the meeting of the Human Responsibility of helping others to meet their Human Needs and satisfying their Human Wants, without violating the Human Rights of Anybody.

jg moebus's avatar

And You can just answer the question: Who is this "we" You speak of that "can do no wrong?"

Gene Marx's avatar

For once, lesser-evilism isn't going to fly. A Duopoly vote places the voter in the support-for-genocide column, unless the legacy party dupe is as brain dead as Biden.

jg moebus's avatar

More Fake News You Can Trust:

Theologians Confirm Trumpet Blast At Christ's Coming Will Be Playing 'The Final Countdown'

Biden Recounts Time He Parted The Red Sea To Escape Slavery In Mexico

4D Chess: Trump Forces Judge To Grant Full Immunity After He Speaks Gibberish And Shakes Hands With The Air

Details at https://babylonbee.com/news/ .

jg moebus's avatar

BOMBSHELL: NATO CONFIRMED THAT UKRAINE “WAR STARTED IN 2014”. WHO STARTED THE WAR?

by Michel Chossudovsky 11 Feb 24

The crucial question is When did the Ukraine War Commence? Who Started the War?

According to Joe Biden: "The Russian military has begun a brutal assault on the people of Ukraine without provocation, without justification, without necessity. " (Joe Biden’s, Press conference, February 24, 2022).

What is important to underscore is that NATO’s Secretary General in a formal statement to the European Parliament contradicts the official narrative. He unequivocally confirms that the War started in 2014.

On September 7, 2023, NATO’s Secretary General Jens Stoltenberg in a presentation to the European Parliament, formally acknowledged that “the war didn’t start in February last year [2022]. It started in 2014.”

That was ten years ago.

This far-reaching declaration confirms his earlier statement in May 2023 in an interview with the Washington Post:

“NATO Secretary General Jens Stoltenberg: The war in Ukraine has fundamentally changed NATO, but then you have to remember the war didn't start in 2022. The war started in 2014. And since then, NATO has implemented the biggest reinforcement of our collective defense since the end of the Cold War.” (Washington Post, May 9, 2023)

Speaking on behalf of NATO, what this statement (European Parliament, WP) unequivocally confirms is that US-NATO was already at war in 2014. It also tacitly acknowledges that Russia did not “initiate the war” on Ukraine in February 2022.

In a twisted irony, in his presentation to the European Parliament, Stoltenberg portrays “the purpose” of the Ukraine war, which has resulted in more than 300,000 casualties as a means “to prevent war”.

Continued at https://michelchossudovsky.substack.com/p/bombshell-nato-confirmed-that-ukraine .

jg moebus's avatar

Caitlin Johnstone’s 10 Feb piece "In The War Of Propaganda, It Is Very Difficult To Defeat The United States" should be required reading for every American before they are allowed to vote in any election this year.

https://www.caitlinjohnst.one/p/in-the-war-of-propaganda-it-is-very

Tamara Kittelson's avatar

Our eyes are just fine, they aren't lying. People in power are.

Jazzme's avatar

Biden is deteriorating pretty fast. At this pace I think the Convention may bring out better sensibilities. Trump's locked but Biden's mental acumen has to be a discussion issue at the convention. I'm optimistic.