To your list of TV and movie AI plots, I'd add the novel, "Colossus." Now, it's a typical story of a machine accumulating knowledge to the point that it decides to rule mankind. When it was published in 1966, though, it was a fairly new concept. And very scary. Still is.
As computers and robots increasingly replace workers in retail, manufacturing and other sectors of the economy more and more people are going to lose their jobs and not be able to find another one. Adopting a Universal basic income (UBI) government program in which every adult citizen receives $12,000 per annum is going to become necessary for people to survive.
UBI would alleviate poverty and homelessness and replace all other needs-based welfare programs that require greater bureaucratic overhead.
Support for a government-supplied income stream has been endorsed by prominent economists on the left and the right. Among them is the late conservative economist Milton Friedman, who in 1962’s “Capitalism and Freedom”, argued that a UBI—would help overcome a mindset where citizens aren’t inclined to make sacrifices if they don’t believe others will follow suit. “We might all of us be willing to contribute to the relief of poverty, provided everyone else did,” he wrote.
Libertarian philosopher Charles Murray proposed a $12,000-per-year UBI, as well as basic health insurance, which he says would allow the government to cut other welfare programs to pay for UBI.
The Freedom Dividend, as Andrew Yang called it. Yang’s website includes favorable quotes about the idea from everyone from Martin Luther King Jr., to Richard Nixon, who weighed a similar proposal while president, as well as modern-day tech entrepreneurs Elon Musk and Mark Zuckerberg.
Yang says the payments would be offset by a 10% value-added tax, VAT, and by replacing duplicative social-welfare spending. Current recipients could choose between their existing benefits and $1,000 in cash. A guaranteed, unconditional income would give disadvantaged people leverage to say no to exploitative wages and abusive working conditions. And solve the problem whereby computers and robots make a large percentage of people lacking the means to provide for themself.
I am wondering if any of the commentators here actually have any knowedge of machine learning beyond what is seen in the press or on social media. The fact that 350 people signed a letter calling for a moratorium on AI research reminds me of the story about over 100 physicists signing a letter in 1905 saying that Einstein's special theory of relativity was wrong. I strongly suggest viewing the lecture given by Caltech professor Yaser Abu Mostafa last Thursday on "AI: The good, the bad and the ugly". It, along with his undergraduate level ML course, can be found on YouTube. And yes, I took that course, and yes, I have actually used ML on real data. Also yes to the Kruger-Dunning syndrome.
AI POSES RISK OF EXTINCTION, TECH LEADERS WARN IN OPEN LETTER. HERE'S WHY ALARM IS SPREADING by Josh Meyer / USA TODAY 053123
Hundreds of scientists, tech industry execs and public figures - including leaders of Google, Microsoft and ChatGPT - are sounding the alarm about artificial intelligence, writing in a new public statement that fast-evolving AI technology could create as high a risk of killing off humankind as nuclear war and COVID-like pandemics. [Statement and Signatories is available at https://www.safe.ai/statement-on-ai-risk#open-letter ]
"MITIGATING THE RISK OF EXTINCTION FROM AI SHOULD BE A GLOBAL PRIORITY ALONGSIDE OTHER SOCIETAL-SCALE RISKS SUCH AS PANDEMICS AND NUCLEAR WAR," said the one-sentence statement, which was released by the Center for AI Safety, or CAIS, a San Francisco-based nonprofit organization.
CAIS said it released the statement as a way of encouraging AI experts, journalists, policymakers, and the public to talk more about urgent risks relating to artificial intelligence.
Among the 350 signatories of the public statement were executives from the top four AI firms, OpenAI, Google DeepMind, Microsoft and Anthropic. One of them is renowned researcher and “Godfather of AI” Geoffrey Hinton, who quit his job as a vice president of Google last month so he could speak freely of the dangers of a technology he helped develop.
Also signing the statement: Sam Altman, the chief executive of OpenAI, the firm behind the popular conversation bot ChatGPT, which has made AI accessible to millions of users and allowed them to pose questions to it. Demis Hassabis, who heads Google’s AI division, also signed the statement.
Altman, Hinton and other industry leaders have become increasingly vocal about their concerns about AI and the need for some kind of technological guardrails for it, including government regulation.
Are these smart phones that all our kids have computers? They are right?
Max Blumenthal exposes how apps being developed by US big tech (Google) are being used in Ukraine to initiate full time surveillance and control of everybody. If you want to get rid of your neighbor, use your Diia app, rolled out at the WEF, call him a Russian sympathizer, and get the state to come and have him taken away to be disappeared. The app even gives the GPS location of the accused. Ukrainian Dictator Zelenskyy proudly says they are "the state within your smart phone. The future of E-governance".
And how its used to launder US taxpayer's money (cash) to the Ukraine without Congressional Approval and accountability.
Well, the drones are still guided - for the time being - right? Yeah, "Regards to Captain Dunsell" (sic) for the human race. Slogan: "A Cleaner War: No Human Meddling." I would imagine they'd love it inside The Pentagram: "Hey, it wasn't us. It was the machines." Robot Chief-of-Staff counters, "Just doing our job, folks."
(Remember the words of agent Smith: "Never send a human to do a machine's job.")
AI as it now stands is a just massive search engine with a speech simulator added on top. It is not going to do anything other than help college kids and lawyers write crappy reports and legal briefs. Now if the DoD hooks one up to our nuclear arsenal, then yeah, we are doomed. So it really all depends on what us humans (or more precisely the things that claim to be human who are running The Blob) decide to hook AI systems up to. If you hook them up to air traffic control, expect some fireworks. If you just let people type in stupid questions, then not much happens at all.
We humans are always trying to get an edge, an advantage, for power and profit. The question is how far we will go in a future that simply can't be predicted.
I think that the current surge is a market thing, NASDAQ has been down, and VC has been hesitant to invest further. So voila! AI is now suddenly better and everyone wants to dump money on it again. I think it is all marketing right now. It will be years before anything like reliable, accurate and comprehensive AI is available. At that point we can start to worry about what negative uses it will be applied to by the virtue-less egomaniacs in charge. Let's just hope they don't hook the current versions up to anything kinetic.
To your list of TV and movie AI plots, I'd add the novel, "Colossus." Now, it's a typical story of a machine accumulating knowledge to the point that it decides to rule mankind. When it was published in 1966, though, it was a fairly new concept. And very scary. Still is.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colossus_(novel)
Add to that the idea of the Singularity, and we're getting into really frightening territory.
https://bigthink.com/the-future/ray-kurzweil-singularity/
I, for one, find AI advances very concerning.
Colossus: The Forbin Project. Starring Eric Braeden and Susan Clark. One of my favorite sci-fi movies.
Yes, I read that it had been made into a movie. Sounds as if it's worth scoping out.
I read the book as an assignment in my college sci-fi/fantasy class. Now, THAT was a cool course!
As computers and robots increasingly replace workers in retail, manufacturing and other sectors of the economy more and more people are going to lose their jobs and not be able to find another one. Adopting a Universal basic income (UBI) government program in which every adult citizen receives $12,000 per annum is going to become necessary for people to survive.
UBI would alleviate poverty and homelessness and replace all other needs-based welfare programs that require greater bureaucratic overhead.
Support for a government-supplied income stream has been endorsed by prominent economists on the left and the right. Among them is the late conservative economist Milton Friedman, who in 1962’s “Capitalism and Freedom”, argued that a UBI—would help overcome a mindset where citizens aren’t inclined to make sacrifices if they don’t believe others will follow suit. “We might all of us be willing to contribute to the relief of poverty, provided everyone else did,” he wrote.
Libertarian philosopher Charles Murray proposed a $12,000-per-year UBI, as well as basic health insurance, which he says would allow the government to cut other welfare programs to pay for UBI.
The Freedom Dividend, as Andrew Yang called it. Yang’s website includes favorable quotes about the idea from everyone from Martin Luther King Jr., to Richard Nixon, who weighed a similar proposal while president, as well as modern-day tech entrepreneurs Elon Musk and Mark Zuckerberg.
Yang says the payments would be offset by a 10% value-added tax, VAT, and by replacing duplicative social-welfare spending. Current recipients could choose between their existing benefits and $1,000 in cash. A guaranteed, unconditional income would give disadvantaged people leverage to say no to exploitative wages and abusive working conditions. And solve the problem whereby computers and robots make a large percentage of people lacking the means to provide for themself.
I am wondering if any of the commentators here actually have any knowedge of machine learning beyond what is seen in the press or on social media. The fact that 350 people signed a letter calling for a moratorium on AI research reminds me of the story about over 100 physicists signing a letter in 1905 saying that Einstein's special theory of relativity was wrong. I strongly suggest viewing the lecture given by Caltech professor Yaser Abu Mostafa last Thursday on "AI: The good, the bad and the ugly". It, along with his undergraduate level ML course, can be found on YouTube. And yes, I took that course, and yes, I have actually used ML on real data. Also yes to the Kruger-Dunning syndrome.
AI POSES RISK OF EXTINCTION, TECH LEADERS WARN IN OPEN LETTER. HERE'S WHY ALARM IS SPREADING by Josh Meyer / USA TODAY 053123
Hundreds of scientists, tech industry execs and public figures - including leaders of Google, Microsoft and ChatGPT - are sounding the alarm about artificial intelligence, writing in a new public statement that fast-evolving AI technology could create as high a risk of killing off humankind as nuclear war and COVID-like pandemics. [Statement and Signatories is available at https://www.safe.ai/statement-on-ai-risk#open-letter ]
"MITIGATING THE RISK OF EXTINCTION FROM AI SHOULD BE A GLOBAL PRIORITY ALONGSIDE OTHER SOCIETAL-SCALE RISKS SUCH AS PANDEMICS AND NUCLEAR WAR," said the one-sentence statement, which was released by the Center for AI Safety, or CAIS, a San Francisco-based nonprofit organization.
CAIS said it released the statement as a way of encouraging AI experts, journalists, policymakers, and the public to talk more about urgent risks relating to artificial intelligence.
Among the 350 signatories of the public statement were executives from the top four AI firms, OpenAI, Google DeepMind, Microsoft and Anthropic. One of them is renowned researcher and “Godfather of AI” Geoffrey Hinton, who quit his job as a vice president of Google last month so he could speak freely of the dangers of a technology he helped develop.
Also signing the statement: Sam Altman, the chief executive of OpenAI, the firm behind the popular conversation bot ChatGPT, which has made AI accessible to millions of users and allowed them to pose questions to it. Demis Hassabis, who heads Google’s AI division, also signed the statement.
Altman, Hinton and other industry leaders have become increasingly vocal about their concerns about AI and the need for some kind of technological guardrails for it, including government regulation.
Continued at https://www.safe.ai/statement-on-ai-risk#open-letter ; EMPHASIS added.
Are these smart phones that all our kids have computers? They are right?
Max Blumenthal exposes how apps being developed by US big tech (Google) are being used in Ukraine to initiate full time surveillance and control of everybody. If you want to get rid of your neighbor, use your Diia app, rolled out at the WEF, call him a Russian sympathizer, and get the state to come and have him taken away to be disappeared. The app even gives the GPS location of the accused. Ukrainian Dictator Zelenskyy proudly says they are "the state within your smart phone. The future of E-governance".
And how its used to launder US taxpayer's money (cash) to the Ukraine without Congressional Approval and accountability.
Dystopian, eh?
Is this computer's copying their human creators?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TS_ZcMDWYpg&t=23s
Never a word about Asimov's "Laws of Robotics."
Will the robots obey their betters' "laws"? Will humans even use Asimov's laws?
Think of killer robots and drones -- obviously not what Asimov had in mind!
Well, the drones are still guided - for the time being - right? Yeah, "Regards to Captain Dunsell" (sic) for the human race. Slogan: "A Cleaner War: No Human Meddling." I would imagine they'd love it inside The Pentagram: "Hey, it wasn't us. It was the machines." Robot Chief-of-Staff counters, "Just doing our job, folks."
(Remember the words of agent Smith: "Never send a human to do a machine's job.")
It's interesting. Yes, there are still "humans in the loop" with those drones.
But, as I understand it, target recognition, at least in part, is based on (or evaluated by) computer models/algorithms.
Maybe someday the computers will simply cut humans out of the loop as so many "Captain Dunsels."
AI as it now stands is a just massive search engine with a speech simulator added on top. It is not going to do anything other than help college kids and lawyers write crappy reports and legal briefs. Now if the DoD hooks one up to our nuclear arsenal, then yeah, we are doomed. So it really all depends on what us humans (or more precisely the things that claim to be human who are running The Blob) decide to hook AI systems up to. If you hook them up to air traffic control, expect some fireworks. If you just let people type in stupid questions, then not much happens at all.
I hope you're right.
We humans are always trying to get an edge, an advantage, for power and profit. The question is how far we will go in a future that simply can't be predicted.
I think that the current surge is a market thing, NASDAQ has been down, and VC has been hesitant to invest further. So voila! AI is now suddenly better and everyone wants to dump money on it again. I think it is all marketing right now. It will be years before anything like reliable, accurate and comprehensive AI is available. At that point we can start to worry about what negative uses it will be applied to by the virtue-less egomaniacs in charge. Let's just hope they don't hook the current versions up to anything kinetic.