"Gabbard has often been an outspoken critic of America’s forever wars. She has questioned the official narrative of the Russia-Ukraine War. She is concerned about the risks of nuclear war. She takes a dim view of America’s wars of choice and identifies closely with her “brothers and sisters in uniform,” a phrase she uses often when she speaks."
I don't understand why anyone would pay attention to the NYT or the rest of the MSM.
On the one hand, the "rebels" are freedom fighters overthrowing the evil Assad regime. On the other, these groups are called "terrorists" by the "international community".
And there is the convenient lack of historial reporting that the groups currently funded by the CIA are the descendants of Al-Qaeda who attacked the US on 9/11. Or that in the earlier phases of the Syrian war, the U.S. was funding the "moderates terrorists" on both sides.
They used to be the bad guys. Now they're the good guys. If they attack us again then they will be the bad guys. Again. This is known as "shuttle diplomacy".
For those who haven't seen it, here is the video of the retired General who at 1 time was NATO Commander in Europe.
General Wesley Clark on 9/11, Says Aggression Against Libya & Syria Was Planned Years Ago.
Now he's a US WAR HAWK against Russia.
Watching the video, who's to say the overthrow of Assad Today, wasn't the Israeli-US Regime Change plan right after 9/11 General Clark revealed as a "whistle blower" in 2001?
The Russians and Iran General Soleimanai stopped it in 2015, and the US took the plan up again?
Trump ASSASINATED General Soleimani when he was in Iraq on a Peace Mission to improve Relations between Iran and Saudi Arabia.
The MSM we take as the Experts without question, are GUILTY of TOO MANY SINS of OMISSION informing the MASSES of what's really going on in places so far away.
The MSM is nothing more or less than the Propaganda Wing of the Deep State.
And al-Qaeda never stopped working with and for the US Government; ever since it got started with Carter's Proxy War with the USSR in Afghanistan back in 1979. Just after The Shah was deposed in Iran.
Saw Tulsi at a campaign rally in Dearborn, MI in 2022. She did not identify as a Republican then, but it was a GOP rally with many red pilled Arab voters. She was on the way to MAGA then, and I respect her for her new insights. Also did many Arab voters!
Is she gonna be just another neocon mucking up things. The neocons are very much in the drivers seat be ye a Dem or Repub...
To be honest I'm at a loss seeing a brighter future in the USA or anywhere for that matter. No matter who's in Congress_ POTUS_or SCOTUS.
The world is in a very dark place. And who am I to complain...hell I could be a Palestinian being starved and killed and herded like a sacrificial sheep for slaughter just for wanting my home back. God bless America/Isreal/Neocons.
One of the first things the Syrian opposition did as it toppled Assad was free the unjustly imprisoned. America has the greatest proportion of its population imprisoned of all the nations in the world. Literally in prison. Imprisoned by poverty and imprisoned because of impoverishment leaves them unable to afford the justice the rich can afford to stay out of jail. A serious revolution in America would also first free these imprisoned Americans.
My problem with Tulsi Gabbard started when she entered the spotlight by offering herself as a Dem. POTUS wannabe. Where on the political spectrum did she really stand?? Perhaps she didn't know herself! But aligning herself with Fascist Trump denies her any respect I could previously have had for her. Smells like crass opportunism to me. As to Syria, Mr. Assad may not have been a very nice fellow, but his fall is a huge win for US Imperialism, and THAT is something I can never celebrate. And this gives Biden something to crow about as he hits the White House exit door. The whole affair nauseates me.
Tulsi is weird, but she Surfs! :O) Seriously tho. I agree Greg. all the changing horses in the middle of the stream mostly leaves you all wet & cold ie. doesn't inspire confidence with me in the least. Sometimes I think she needs to get a life.
Note that the DJT nominees who won't raise any questions or change anything are all getting free passes. And that's most of them.
As an aside, so much for "draining the swamp" on one hand and the "imminent danger to our governance" on the other. Strange how those fit together so well rhetorically to provide distraction
Returning to the original point, Bessent is a fairly standard corporate drone. Read much analysis about him, have you? Rubio and Stefanie are empire-firsters who will fit in well with our murderous foreign policy establishment. Not a peep, though it isn't difficult to foresee the damage they'll do.
I have strong doubts about Gabbard, but I credit her for the quality of her enemies.
For me, I think that what ever positive values veterans Gabbard, Vance and Hegseth may bring to the work of the federal government that their basic error is trusting a criminal, con man named Trump.
We know from years of experience with Trump that when push comes to shove, Trump will quickly calculate the easiest way out of conflict -- (IF it is a conflict that is too much for him to handle e.g. if billionaires complain and threaten Trump's business interests, etc.).
Thus my guess is these three have made errors in judgement of the major kind to take difficult jobs with Trump who says "thank you for you service!!!" and the victim feels a pat on the back just before the knife plunges in.
Resolving the major issue before America (how to control, reorient and reduce the military industrial complex in the USA) and the result of this Complex - "forever wars" will take much more than three veterans who are most likely making the major mistake of their careers.
We think of certain men and women leading things and making changes.
BUT WHEN we have a problem that is massive, spends tremendous amounts of money above the table and under the table, and is corrupt and orders people and groups killed and has nominal supporters in ever state of the nations and has former employees who were shall we say dupped and many are still dupped, then a couple of do gooders charging in on white horses and lances are not going to change the system. Especially when the king these do gooders are helping is a crook.
I think of these three as people who went into the military dupped by society and themselves. They must not have know many lessons of Vietnam. And it seems they may still not understanding how they themselves dupped themselves into the military. Are any in Veterans for Peace or some other such vets group? No.
These three will focus on being politicians and staying in office and do NOT focus on organizing and growing an effort to demilitarize our thinking and actions and working for peace. I think they dumbly think peace comes out of a barrel of a gun.
Thank you Dennis! I think Chromsky is right but all those presidents did try to overthrow other nation's governments and were successful in many attempts.
But only Trump and his group have tried to overthrow our government. I presume you agree on that. Peace! Buzz
When did Trump and his group try "to overthrow the US Government"?
Or are You claiming that January 6 was an attempted "coup, insurrection, revolution, etc"?
Whatever that was up on Capitol Hill on January 6, it was not a "coup," an "insurgency," or an "insurrection," no matter what the politicians, pundits, and other propagandists in Swampland, the media, Tinseltown, or academia may try to tell and sell us.
It was trespassing, assault on government employees, breaking and entering, the invasion and destruction of public and private property, the disruption of public business, and the wasting of public officials' and government employees' time, effort, and energy, and of taxpayers' money.
Coups, insurgencies, and insurrections aren't attempted by people carrying nothing but flags, signs, selfie-sticks, and smartphones, with hotel checkouts the next day at 11 am.
That was not an attempt to overthrow the government of the United States [which, to actually happen in the real world, would have to start at the Pentagon, the CIA, and/or the Federal Reserve].
Bill, somewhere recently (and I cannot find who said it) I read that some of the fighting in Syria involved two “rebel” groups who were fighting each other and that one group is CIA backed while the other is Pentagon backed. Have you read that anywhere, and is that even possible? If true, it struck me as something that Joseph Heller might have included in his book “Catch 22”.
Only thing tho. in all Wars there really is no-- "winner" per se just different, varying degrees of Losing..! Verbal jousting always being more preferred than actual...!
Brother Bill....you nailed it again!!
"Gabbard has often been an outspoken critic of America’s forever wars. She has questioned the official narrative of the Russia-Ukraine War. She is concerned about the risks of nuclear war. She takes a dim view of America’s wars of choice and identifies closely with her “brothers and sisters in uniform,” a phrase she uses often when she speaks."
She is worthy where so many others are not.
Thanks for your post!
I don't understand why anyone would pay attention to the NYT or the rest of the MSM.
On the one hand, the "rebels" are freedom fighters overthrowing the evil Assad regime. On the other, these groups are called "terrorists" by the "international community".
And there is the convenient lack of historial reporting that the groups currently funded by the CIA are the descendants of Al-Qaeda who attacked the US on 9/11. Or that in the earlier phases of the Syrian war, the U.S. was funding the "moderates terrorists" on both sides.
We're equal opportunity funders! Especially when it involves guns and ammo.
They used to be the bad guys. Now they're the good guys. If they attack us again then they will be the bad guys. Again. This is known as "shuttle diplomacy".
...played by shuttle cocks.
For those who haven't seen it, here is the video of the retired General who at 1 time was NATO Commander in Europe.
General Wesley Clark on 9/11, Says Aggression Against Libya & Syria Was Planned Years Ago.
Now he's a US WAR HAWK against Russia.
Watching the video, who's to say the overthrow of Assad Today, wasn't the Israeli-US Regime Change plan right after 9/11 General Clark revealed as a "whistle blower" in 2001?
The Russians and Iran General Soleimanai stopped it in 2015, and the US took the plan up again?
Trump ASSASINATED General Soleimani when he was in Iraq on a Peace Mission to improve Relations between Iran and Saudi Arabia.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7mNr1aaDiNw
The MSM we take as the Experts without question, are GUILTY of TOO MANY SINS of OMISSION informing the MASSES of what's really going on in places so far away.
The MSM is nothing more or less than the Propaganda Wing of the Deep State.
And al-Qaeda never stopped working with and for the US Government; ever since it got started with Carter's Proxy War with the USSR in Afghanistan back in 1979. Just after The Shah was deposed in Iran.
Saw Tulsi at a campaign rally in Dearborn, MI in 2022. She did not identify as a Republican then, but it was a GOP rally with many red pilled Arab voters. She was on the way to MAGA then, and I respect her for her new insights. Also did many Arab voters!
Is she gonna be just another neocon mucking up things. The neocons are very much in the drivers seat be ye a Dem or Repub...
To be honest I'm at a loss seeing a brighter future in the USA or anywhere for that matter. No matter who's in Congress_ POTUS_or SCOTUS.
The world is in a very dark place. And who am I to complain...hell I could be a Palestinian being starved and killed and herded like a sacrificial sheep for slaughter just for wanting my home back. God bless America/Isreal/Neocons.
One of the first things the Syrian opposition did as it toppled Assad was free the unjustly imprisoned. America has the greatest proportion of its population imprisoned of all the nations in the world. Literally in prison. Imprisoned by poverty and imprisoned because of impoverishment leaves them unable to afford the justice the rich can afford to stay out of jail. A serious revolution in America would also first free these imprisoned Americans.
She is libertarian...seems Trumpism is moving that direction. Yay!
My problem with Tulsi Gabbard started when she entered the spotlight by offering herself as a Dem. POTUS wannabe. Where on the political spectrum did she really stand?? Perhaps she didn't know herself! But aligning herself with Fascist Trump denies her any respect I could previously have had for her. Smells like crass opportunism to me. As to Syria, Mr. Assad may not have been a very nice fellow, but his fall is a huge win for US Imperialism, and THAT is something I can never celebrate. And this gives Biden something to crow about as he hits the White House exit door. The whole affair nauseates me.
Tulsi is weird, but she Surfs! :O) Seriously tho. I agree Greg. all the changing horses in the middle of the stream mostly leaves you all wet & cold ie. doesn't inspire confidence with me in the least. Sometimes I think she needs to get a life.
Tulsi didn't "change horse". The horse was assassinated by the Democratic Party.
Note that the DJT nominees who won't raise any questions or change anything are all getting free passes. And that's most of them.
As an aside, so much for "draining the swamp" on one hand and the "imminent danger to our governance" on the other. Strange how those fit together so well rhetorically to provide distraction
Returning to the original point, Bessent is a fairly standard corporate drone. Read much analysis about him, have you? Rubio and Stefanie are empire-firsters who will fit in well with our murderous foreign policy establishment. Not a peep, though it isn't difficult to foresee the damage they'll do.
I have strong doubts about Gabbard, but I credit her for the quality of her enemies.
Tulsi rocks!
Hello All!
For me, I think that what ever positive values veterans Gabbard, Vance and Hegseth may bring to the work of the federal government that their basic error is trusting a criminal, con man named Trump.
We know from years of experience with Trump that when push comes to shove, Trump will quickly calculate the easiest way out of conflict -- (IF it is a conflict that is too much for him to handle e.g. if billionaires complain and threaten Trump's business interests, etc.).
Thus my guess is these three have made errors in judgement of the major kind to take difficult jobs with Trump who says "thank you for you service!!!" and the victim feels a pat on the back just before the knife plunges in.
Resolving the major issue before America (how to control, reorient and reduce the military industrial complex in the USA) and the result of this Complex - "forever wars" will take much more than three veterans who are most likely making the major mistake of their careers.
We think of certain men and women leading things and making changes.
BUT WHEN we have a problem that is massive, spends tremendous amounts of money above the table and under the table, and is corrupt and orders people and groups killed and has nominal supporters in ever state of the nations and has former employees who were shall we say dupped and many are still dupped, then a couple of do gooders charging in on white horses and lances are not going to change the system. Especially when the king these do gooders are helping is a crook.
I think of these three as people who went into the military dupped by society and themselves. They must not have know many lessons of Vietnam. And it seems they may still not understanding how they themselves dupped themselves into the military. Are any in Veterans for Peace or some other such vets group? No.
These three will focus on being politicians and staying in office and do NOT focus on organizing and growing an effort to demilitarize our thinking and actions and working for peace. I think they dumbly think peace comes out of a barrel of a gun.
Peace! Buzz Davis, Vets For Peace in Tucson
So how is Trump anymore of a criminal, a crook and a con man, than ANY other post-war president of the US, Buzz?
Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5BXtgq0Nhsc
Noam Chomsky - The Crimes of U.S. Presidents
Watch this video and weep my friend?
"If the Nuremberg principles were applied, every post-World War II president would be indictable."
So Dennis: Do You think it is possible for Anybody who is not a criminal and/or a crook, and/or a conman to become President?
And You don't need to stop Your question with the post-War Presidents.
Folks of that category go back at least thru FDR to Wilson, to Teddy Roosevelt, and to Lincoln, if not further.
Thank you Dennis! I think Chromsky is right but all those presidents did try to overthrow other nation's governments and were successful in many attempts.
But only Trump and his group have tried to overthrow our government. I presume you agree on that. Peace! Buzz
When did Trump and his group try "to overthrow the US Government"?
Or are You claiming that January 6 was an attempted "coup, insurrection, revolution, etc"?
Whatever that was up on Capitol Hill on January 6, it was not a "coup," an "insurgency," or an "insurrection," no matter what the politicians, pundits, and other propagandists in Swampland, the media, Tinseltown, or academia may try to tell and sell us.
It was trespassing, assault on government employees, breaking and entering, the invasion and destruction of public and private property, the disruption of public business, and the wasting of public officials' and government employees' time, effort, and energy, and of taxpayers' money.
Coups, insurgencies, and insurrections aren't attempted by people carrying nothing but flags, signs, selfie-sticks, and smartphones, with hotel checkouts the next day at 11 am.
That was not an attempt to overthrow the government of the United States [which, to actually happen in the real world, would have to start at the Pentagon, the CIA, and/or the Federal Reserve].
Gabbard is not the ugly American that runs the establishment.
dare she question these foreign adventures and proxy wars?
Bill, somewhere recently (and I cannot find who said it) I read that some of the fighting in Syria involved two “rebel” groups who were fighting each other and that one group is CIA backed while the other is Pentagon backed. Have you read that anywhere, and is that even possible? If true, it struck me as something that Joseph Heller might have included in his book “Catch 22”.
Honestly, I don't know, but almost anything is possible ...
Agreed.
I recall differing US sponsors from the Al Nusra/ISIS war. This event was better secured. CIS OPSEC has improved.
We're on both sides so we can claim we won no matter what. It's like betting on black AND on red on the roulette wheel.
Only thing tho. in all Wars there really is no-- "winner" per se just different, varying degrees of Losing..! Verbal jousting always being more preferred than actual...!
The only way to win is to not play.
There are "winners" in War, Fireman1110: Those folks making all those guns, bullets, bombs, bombers, missiles, anti-missiles, and so forth.
And it is those folks who have "won" every war that has ever been fought since the advent of weapons that can kill and maim at a distance.
Yes.., great "Winners" aren't they...sarc. A real credit to their Race as in human! Maybe sub-human, or mutants I don't buy it...!
Hedging their bets?
The coming crucifixion of Tulsi Gabbard.
Indifference and complacency amidst overwhelming corruption will ultimately destroy us all.
Only action now can save humanity.
The Christmas Eve Candlelight Vigil must being millions into the streets globally and move millions more as a perpetual motion machine
Time to throw caution to the wind.
No stopping the real Pro-Life, Pro-Palestinian movement.
Touche’!
Biden on Syria: “God bless America. And God protect our troops.”